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  by mikeypants in

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  so, i'm visiting family this week who are all jws.

  yesterday, it started with one of them talking about a co giving her some points on time keeping for service.

  she is now writing a letter before she drives to service, so she can count her drive time.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  Another anecdote:

  CO comes to town telling publishers “It’s not about the time”.

  Next CO comes to town telling elders “Congregation hours are down. What’s going on?” He then gives speeches during meetings for FS about how to “start” your hours using clever rationalizations (like writing a note to leave at a not-at-homes just before you leave home to come to the KH for FS, and dropping a magazine somewhere enroute to meetings for GS). All this is shared under the rationale of “making your time count” (meaning: find a way to get your hours up with clever ways of soothing your consciences).

  Next CO comes to town telling publishers “It’s not about the time”.

  And it goes on…
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  No words

  by mikeypants in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i'm visiting family this week who are all jws.

  yesterday, it started with one of them talking about a co giving her some points on time keeping for service.

  she is now writing a letter before she drives to service, so she can count her drive time.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  The time hedging thing always amazed me.

  One CO recommended a pioneer stop by a local laundromat and leave a magazine on her way to meetings for field service at the KH. The laundry was downstairs from her apartment. The KH was nearly a 1-hour drive. When she met at the KH guess where publishers would always be sent for FS (in order to help out the pioneer sister who would otherwise have to put even more miles on her auto!)? Yep. Right back to her neighborhood. She clocked 2 hours just coming and going.

  So inefficient, and such a waste of time, talent and resources. And it had nothing whatsoever about loving your neighbor as yourself.

  One of the then publishers who'd regularly make the trip to sister-pioneer's neighborhood (to help her out!!!) turned out to be a pedophile. He was looking for victims in FS. This was back in the early 1970s. Those kids had no idea the advice of a CO helping a pioneed hedge her hours was in the chain of events that led to their exposure.
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  Plymouth Herald: Mother reveals torment as JW is jailed for sexually abusing her daughter

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  see original thread here on jwn: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/child-abuse/288910/3/jehovahe28099s-witness-elder-jailed-for-12-years-for-multiple-sexual-offences-against-young-girl.

  http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/mother-reveals-torment-jehovah-s-witness-jailed/story-25741246-detail/story.html.

  mother reveals torment as jehovah's witness is jailed for sexually abusing her daughter.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  So hurting to know such monsters are around and hurting the most vulnerable amongst us. So hurting...

  Thanks Barbara. It takes tremendous wherewithal to keep going on the mission you've taken on to help children!
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  "Jehovah has helped “the faithful and discreet slave” to become steadily more discreet"

  by EndofMysteries in

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  2. beliefs

  "as we might expect, over the years jehovah has helped the faithful and discreet slave to become steadily more discreet.

  " 3/2015 study wt.

  i guess they just admitted their self title as the discreet slave was not discreet.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  "As we might expect, over the years Jehovah has helped “the faithful and discreet slave” to become steadily more discreet."--3/2015 Study WT

  My question is this:

  Why did it take Jehovah over one-hundred years to help the “the faithful and discreet slave” to know WHAT it was a spokesperson FOR?

  See Mother of All Mistakes!: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2012/11/mother-of-all-mistakes.html

  How credible can you be if you DON'T KNOW WHAT you are supposedly speaking in behalf of and have gotten that simple fact wrong for a century?
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  1973 Release from Liability form

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today i added a new article to my blog.

  it will appeal to readers interested in historical documentation of watchtower blood doctrine.

  it contains an image of a very rare document from the early 1970s stipulating what jehovah's witnesses do not allow.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  I wonder what the ratio was of preventable deaths vs. the risk of HIV, even in those days.

  A highly susceptible at-risk patient population during those days was hemophiliacs. JW patients suffering with hemophilia not protected from AIDS as a bloodborne pathagen because under Watchtower doctrine JWs were then accepting the blood "fractions" used to treat the condition.

  This represents another misrepresentation of facts by Watchtower. See Facts 3a and 3B at:

  http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2010/04/watchtower-blood-doctrine-facts.html

  Here's another example of the similar gross misrepresentation in relation to transfusion related risk:

  http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2012/05/death-from-trali.html
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  1973 Release from Liability form

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today i added a new article to my blog.

  it will appeal to readers interested in historical documentation of watchtower blood doctrine.

  it contains an image of a very rare document from the early 1970s stipulating what jehovah's witnesses do not allow.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  The volume the form document was lifted from contains an opening article originally published in Ethicon (Volume 10, No. 7) Can't say I've ever heard of the publication titled Ethicon, but the article is authored by Dr. Dixon who at the time was medical director at Watchtower headquarters in Brooklyn NY. This article by Dixon is layered with fallacy and assumption of things the Bible is completely silent about. It boggles the mind to realize how an educated adult could let him or herself write such claptrap. It's as if he accepted what came from Watchtower without the slightest bit of corroboration!
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  1973 Release from Liability form

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today i added a new article to my blog.

  it will appeal to readers interested in historical documentation of watchtower blood doctrine.

  it contains an image of a very rare document from the early 1970s stipulating what jehovah's witnesses do not allow.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  Today I added a new article to my blog. It will appeal to readers interested in historical documentation of Watchtower blood doctrine. It contains an image of a very rare document from the early 1970s stipulating what Jehovah's Witnesses do not allow. The document is titled Release From Liability and can be viewed at:

  http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2014/12/1973-release-from-liability-form.html
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  Jehovah's Witnesses are NOT a Cult......so they say.

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  trying to develop a good strategy for relatives still partially indoctrinated by this despicable inhumane cult.

  i researched their own material and i found some good info on how they don't mind control anyone.

  the following unedited information was sourced from their february 15, 1994 watchtower p. 5-7. i've highlighted some sentences that we all know are lies and a distortion of the reality of their community:.

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  Watchtower Identifies Brainwashing

  http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2012/04/watchtower-identifies-brainwashing.html

  I recommend photocopying page 10 of the January 22, 1990 issue of Awake magazine. Circle the appropriate paragraph and then share a few facts of the matter with a JW who cares enough to have the discussion. If you need a few facts of the matter to share the short article linked to above give two doozies.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses are NOT a Cult......so they say.

  by Tenacious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  trying to develop a good strategy for relatives still partially indoctrinated by this despicable inhumane cult.

  i researched their own material and i found some good info on how they don't mind control anyone.

  the following unedited information was sourced from their february 15, 1994 watchtower p. 5-7. i've highlighted some sentences that we all know are lies and a distortion of the reality of their community:.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  Obviously, if these methods had been used, there would be an overwhelming number of victims in contradiction to any argument in favor of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

  That statement by Watchtower is something I completely agree with, but as it turns out that statement presents a challenging situation given what we have access to today.

  Here: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2012/04/brainwashing-watchtowers-challenge.html
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  Glaring discrepency in Blood Doctrine

  by kjg132 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i found an article on the dr. sears website about the benefits of breasfeeding.

  according to the article it says: "a drop of breastmilk contains about one million white blood cells.

  " it also says "colostrum also contains higher amounts of white blood cells..........than mature milk.

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  In WT's view, the symbol for life is more important than life!

  Watchtower's blood doctrine is an instance of Watchtower treating a supposed symbol for life equivolent to life itself.

  Yet when directly addressing the concept of whether a symbol should be held on par with the thing it symbolizes, Watchtower says something else.

  It's an instance of Watchtower saying different things from different corners of its publishing mouth.

  Here: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2012/05/blood-as-important-as-life.html